MVHR DOs & DON’Ts: Joists and ductwork

 

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Rigid steel ducting in metal posi-joists at Green Building Store’s stand at NSBRC Swindon

 

When designing an MVHR system for a newbuild or a retrofit project it is obviously really important to be aware of the space required not only to site the MVHR unit but also for the associated ductwork and silencers. It is also important to think about sequencing of MVHR ducting installation, particularly in relation to intermediate floor joists and metal posi-joists.

Importance of MVHR being considered early on in the design stage

Getting involved as MVHR designers in the early stages of the project  is always beneficial as when we are integrated into the design team at an early stage we can design the most efficient MVHR system as we are not restricted by undersized joists and service voids.  At this early stage, if we clearly specify the diameters of duct that we require before the joists are specified and so the project engineers/architects can ensure that the ductwork will easily fit through the joists.

Silencers/ attenuators

In most cases the silencers/ attenuators on the MVHR system are too big and will not fit through the joists, it is therefore important that we can design them in to run parallel with the joists.

Problems that can arise

If the joists are in position and installed BEFORE the MVHR ductwork then very often this will create problems. Installing long sections rigid steel ducting through the gaps in the timber joists or steel posi-joists very often won’t be possible and the ducting would have to be cut into small sections to fit between the joists. These small sections would then have to be reconnected in the joists zone, using ‘male to male connectors’.  Although this does not have any negative impact on the performance of the system, it can obviously increase the  installation time,  by requiring the ducting to be cut up and re-joined on site to fit between the joists.

Ducting and joists need to be installed together

The big lesson here is that where MVHR ducting passes through joists it is imperative that the ducting and the joists are installed simultaneously. To ensure that our customers avoid similar problems during installation, our design drawings include a large notice highlighting which ducts pass through the joists and noting that they need to be installed at the same time as the joists are erected.  

The overall message is that the early integration of MVHR design into the project design helps resolves any potential problems at the design stage,  rather than at installation stage when changes can be costly as well as slowing down progress on site.

MVHR design and metal posi joists

MVHR design incorporating ducting and metal posi-joists

 

Tom Heywood Senior MVHR Design Technician Green Building StoreTom Heywood, MVHR Design Manager, Green Building Store

 

12th February 2018

One response to “MVHR DOs & DON’Ts: Joists and ductwork”

  1. blank W Martin Ladd says:

    Hello Mr Heywood – may I ask whether MVHR ducting can be incorporated inside an insulated concrete floor system? Yours gratefully Martin Ladd

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