Insulating suspended timber floors

Insulating timber floors – part 1

Question: Could you please advise me on materials for under-floor insulation? We live in an Edwardian house with standard floorboards which are fixed to joist? What can we use? I was told about fibreboards.

Answere: Ideally a fibrous insulation such as mineral wool or sheep’s wool performs best between timber because it will take up thermal movement and cut down air movement around the insulation. ‘Thermal bypass’ affects performance, so cutting out draughts is preferable. The insulation would need to be secured ideally with a taped membrane (a vapour open membrane such as Solitex FRONTA WA taped at joints such as Tescon No 1 would be ideal) stapled to the underside of the joists to cut down air movement around insulation (thermal bypass) which tends to ‘wick’ heat from the building. This membrane must be vapour open to stop interstitial condensation. However, if there is not the access, strips of plastic stapled to the underside of floor joists will do the job.

Of course this all depends on the access under the floor! If there is no access from below your alternatives are to take up the floor boards completely, or take up a couple of boards every say metre and pull insulation through, refix boards.

Detailing for suspended ground floor for West Yorkshire Victorian mid-terrace house.

Detailing for suspended ground floor for West Yorkshire Victorian mid-terrace house.

 

Best practice for insulating a suspended timber floor – part 2

Question: I’m 70% of the way through an eco retrofit of a 1940s bungalow (windows already in place) but still have about 30 m2 of suspended timber floor to insulate and air seal. I can’t get a definitive idea of the best way to do it. If I use a vapour and air barrier over the PU or mineral wool wool between joists how do I make it airtight when I nail or screw the floor back down? Is there a better material for the floor than T&G softwood or chipboard? Could the airtight layer be on the room side of the floorboards? How do I make the joints between floor and wall airtight? Would PU between joists, foamed joints and airtight tape do the job? I am concerned about interstitial condensation. I will be removing all floor boards and skirtings. I have a well ventilated crawling space under it about 2 foot deep. I am aiming for a good standard of airtightness throughout the house and intend to install MVHR.

Answer: We will try to make general comments, though obviously individual buildings will vary hugely. When insulating a suspended timber ground floor, it is important to distinguish between airtightness and windtightness. This is because you need to avoid condensation forming within the floor structure and the potential problem of rot forming. For your particular project you will need to end up with a higher degree of airtightness than would normally be expected, to achieve the best out of the proposed heat recovery ventilation system (MVHR).

It will be important to stop warm moist air from entering the floor structure by installing a ‘vapour closed’ membrane of some kind. This could be tongue and groove chipboard, for example, with carefully glued joints. I would also suggest that, to cut down thermally diminishing air movement around insulation, you install fibrous insulation between the timber joist such as mineral wool or sheep’s wool to take up any seasonal movement in the timber floor joists as the quickest insulation method. If you used rigid insulation such as polyurethane it would need to be ‘foamed’ at the edges for the same reason.

If the underneath of the floor is accessible, a ‘vapour open’ membrane could be installed to again cut down air/wind movement and hold the insulation in place. To cut down air movement through the unplastered sections of wall between the floor joists ends, we would suggest a weak sand/cement parging coat. To get good airtightness at the edges of the chipboard floor and the plastered wall, you could use a specially designed tape (eg Contega Exo) with proprietary mastic (eg Orcon F) hidden by the skirting board.

The issue of condensation forming around the joist ends within the wall is often a concern in refurbishment work. In our experience, if the escape of warm moist internal air into the external wall is minimised, and the outside ground level is well below the joist ends, there will not be a problem.

Insulating a suspended timber floor – part 3

Question: I’m planning to insulate the timber floor in my 1880 semi-detached house but I’m not proposing to lift the floorboards as I have access from below and I am not in the middle of a major retrofit. Is there a recommended way of doing this that creates a reasonable level of airtightness and does not cause problems of moisture in the joists?

Answer: There are two aims when insulating floors:

  • Insulation
  • Windtightness to cut down draughts and also to minimise ‘thermal bypass’. This is to minimise the passage of air around the insulation cutting out the ‘wicking’ of heat from the building.

If you can access the floor below we would suggest the following:

Our preferred method would be using fibrous insulation such as sheep’s wool, hemp, fibreglass, rockwool etc and not rigid board because it works better between timbers as it takes up any imperfections and movement of the timbers.

You can then install a ‘vapour open’ membrane (such as Pro Clima Solitex FRONTA WA) below your floor joists if you have crawling space. It has to be vapour open to allow the exit of any moist warm air to stop interstitial condensation. Taping the joints with Tescon No. 1 would make an even better job.

To cut down further on draughts applying a weak sand and cement parging coat to the masonry between joist ends and the gap left between wall plaster and floor is very effective.

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